bumpas
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Re: The Bible has God preserve it?
And both have been wrong for over two thousand years.
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Sep/20/2009, 4:10 am
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Re: The Bible has God preserve it?
bumpas says:
And both have been wrong for over two thousand years.
No, it's not wrong. You simply don't accept it's truth.
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Sep/20/2009, 12:48 pm
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Re: The Bible has God preserve it?
The only requirement for being a good christion is (Faith ) blind faith.)
There are no intlligence requyirements
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Sep/20/2009, 1:19 pm
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Romans 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
The faith of God is not blind bumpas, God doesn't want that any more than you do.
Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
If then it is God himself that asks us to use reason to decide the matter intelligence must be involved.
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Sep/20/2009, 2:08 pm
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If you talk to God you probably view yourself as a good christion,if God talks to you,you are probably of need of professional help of some kind.
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Sep/21/2009, 6:14 am
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bumpas says:
If you talk to God you probably view yourself as a good christion,if God talks to you,you are probably of need of professional help of some kind.
Almost right bumas but the last part should be: if God talks to you, then you really are a christian and need no help.
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Sep/21/2009, 9:47 am
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Re: The Bible has God preserve it?
And if a bull had calves we would not need cows either.
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Sep/21/2009, 10:14 am
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I take it you never drink milk or eat cheese then.
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Sep/22/2009, 10:51 am
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It would seam to me that our posts have become pritty mundame and lacking in interest,have a good like.
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Sep/22/2009, 11:19 am
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Re: The Bible has God preserve it?
I know that most true believers will agree that God has preserve His Word in Heaven (Psalms 119:89). But what good would that do us believers here in our earthly tabernacles. I guess you could say what I'm trying to say is if God didn't preserve His Word 100%for us here on earth how can we truly understand Him.
Case and point most modern version leave out most of I John 5:7. Saying that most of this verse wasn't in the orginal Greek.
I believe that this entire verse as stated from the KJV is Scripture "For there are three that bare record in heaven, the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." I John 5:7
I believe I John 5:6 and 8 refer to the death of Jesus which is the witness of man. ( I John 5:9 ) For didn't John give this record in John 19:30-37 for first we read "and gave up the ghost" (John 19:30) ghost of course could be spirit, in verses 34-35 of John 19 we hear about the water and the blood.
While unforunately many believers don't believe the witness of God refer to in I John 5:7,9. "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness." (John 3:11) See also John 3:32-33. The Baptism of Jesus deals with all Three members of the Godhead being reveal (Matthew 3:16-17; Mark 1:9-11; Luke 3:21-22) In the Baptism of Jesus we see the Holy Ghost descending from heaven like a dove, the voice of the Father coming from heaven calling Jesus His Beloved Son. Plus what did John the Baptist say of this event as record by the Apostle John, "(31) And I knew Him not: but that He should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. (32) And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon Him. (33) And I knew Him not: but He that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him the same is He which baptizedth with the Holy Ghost. (34) AND I SAW, AND BARE RECORD THAT THIS IS THE SON OF GOD." John 1:31-34
This is only one of many verses that we see being question by many true believers.
I have heard the statement that not one major doctrine is effected by any of these small disagreement. But what about God promises. Jesus say, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." (Matthew 24:35, Mark 13:31, Luke 22:33).
So this is what I mean when I say has God preserved His Word?
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