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Hi Pastor Junior,

If I thought for a second that a message board was causing strife among professing believers I would shut this one down today. The message board is a really new form of communication (from a historic standpoint) so we must be patient while we discover how to use it for the honor and glory of God.

I do not want people to stop using the message board to ask questions and discuss the different viewpoints. I want to promote this activity so we can all grow as christians in Christ Jesus.

All I am insisting on is an awareness of what we are doing. As long as the question, or debate or discussion is honest and we respect one another I don't see a problem.

Take the topic of this thread for example:
1. some say (or appear to say) that you MUST be baptised to be saved.
2. some say baptism is not needed to be saved.
From what I read both sides are being honest in thier opinion and really want others to know the truth as they see it. So as christians the one thing we must not do is start to imply that God is not telling the truth because once we do that we are left with no anchor on which we can base our trust for our own lives or the lives of others.

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

Whew, things are so much simpler when talking to each other, you can back up, explain, ask questions...

I do not desire to offend anyone but this is a christian message board and I owe God the same diligence with it as I owe to the church he has placed me at.

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I've been going through a discipleship course at church and before baptism we had to complete that section of the course, here's some of the notes as it's too long to put down in it's entirety.

Necessity for salvation no, the thief on the cross as the example.

It is a commandment, Peter commanded new converts of Christ to repent and be baptized. Acts 2:38, 10:48

Jesus commanded His followers to teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
Mathew 28:19

Early Christians immediately after conversion were baptized. Acts 2:41; 8:12, 38; 9:18; 10:47-48; 16:15, 33

Should be immersion Acts 8:36-39; Mark 1:9-10

Baptism identifies us with Christ because we're buried with Christ and raise with Christ into a new life. Romans 6:2-4

It's a public confession of our beliefs. We die to the old life and are born into the new one symbolized by being immersed in water.

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I was not trying to offend, anyone I was just making a point emoticon And most of all I was not calling Jesus a liar emoticon

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Tallylily wrote:

I was not trying to offend, anyone...



I had a feeling that was the case Tallylily, everything you have posted in this board and others leads me to believe you are a very nice christian lady. I just wanted to be sure offense was not taken since this topic can get very heated at times if you know what I mean.

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I think you will find that if a question or topic has different christian veiwpoints that people will tend to get somewhat aggressive to express what they believe to be the truth emoticon Some people call this division and you can find it on most boards. Some say division is good in that the word does divide. In this case maybe we all will argue over nothing as we all know Jesus died on the cross for our sins. We also all know we are to be obedient to obey Gods commandments. I think we all agree with this. emoticon In this day and age though I have heard of some churches that don't even practice baptism anymore. We could also argue about dunk, sprinkle or wash. I believe we need to be fully immersed, but not everyone believes that. We all kinow that the theif on the cross was not babtized, but he could not have been as he was hanging on a tree. So here we know if it is impossible for you to be babtized, God knows that and will not hold you accoutable. In the end God knows your heart. What you believe about him, what he knows you should know, or what you choose to disobey. In other words he knows our every thought. emoticon

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AMEN!
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  Hi Everyone,
  I am most definitely not trying to hurt anyones feelings and as I have said before I think we are all going to be surprised by who is and who isn't in Heaven.
  I believe that we are to be fully immersed in Baptism, which is why I was dunked 3 times, as an example of our conformation to the Doctrine of JESUS CHRIST and our HEAVENLY FATHER. This is a public confession that we have accepted JESUS as LORD and SAVIOR and intend to follow HIS teachings and examples.
 I do not however believe that we have to be baptised in order to be saved and especially if circumstances occur that would keep us from being baptised. However like all of JESUS other teachings we are to try and follow them and keep the faith.

  The problem arises when we take the doctrine of men into it and they begin to say things like, You must be baptised to be saved, you must speak with tongues in order to be saved, you must be able to handle serpents to be saved, you must confess all your sins to a priest to be saved, you must give 10% to the church to be saved, and so on and on and on. Many religions advocate things that are not in the bible in the way that they advocate it. As I have said a good bible scholar(notice I said scholar not Christian) can prove just about anything he wants to by using the bible one verse at a time. That is why it is so important that we read and study each verse in context with the surrounding verses, chapters, and books.
  For instance we need to study all four of the GOSPELS together and not just take one verse at a time because JESUS ministry cannot be conveyed one verse at a time.

Men & women are saved by grace and not works.
Any works that you do, no matter how many or how great, cannot save you without the Grace and Mercy of a LOVING GOD!!!

MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU !!!

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Exactly, grace, not works... works was what I was raised learning but that's wrong. emoticon
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My dad taught me to always be open minded on opinions but then look to the scripture for verification.


BTW: whats up with your board? It says I cann't go there anymore. Have I offended you somehow?

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Hasah wrote:

I've been going through a discipleship course at church and before baptism we had to complete that section of the course, here's some of the notes as it's too long to put down in it's entirety.

Necessity for salvation no, the thief on the cross as the example.

It is a commandment, Peter commanded new converts of Christ to repent and be baptized. Acts 2:38, 10:48

Jesus commanded His followers to teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit
Mathew 28:19

Early Christians immediately after conversion were baptized. Acts 2:41; 8:12, 38; 9:18; 10:47-48; 16:15, 33

Should be immersion Acts 8:36-39; Mark 1:9-10

Baptism identifies us with Christ because we're buried with Christ and raise with Christ into a new life. Romans 6:2-4

It's a public confession of our beliefs. We die to the old life and are born into the new one symbolized by being immersed in water.




DITTO.....Very good course you are taking, This is exactly what I would have posted..Thanks

Joy

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